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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:21:00 -
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if u make it 8/4/7 will it mean remaking it a combat ship rather than attack ship?
an 8/4/7 tempest still doesnt tank as much as a mega, still doesnt do as much dps as a mega and doesnt even have the grid to fit 800's, meta neuts, cap booster, prop mod and 2x1600's.
even a tempest with a 7th gun and 8/4/7 layout it doesnt match up to a mega, but with a little grid love and combat role it may make a hefty artie platform. take away some drone bay and make it very gun boat like.
just a thought
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1845
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:54:00 -
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Blueclaws wrote:
I think one of the things people seem to be forgetting is that Minmatar are not Gallente. You are right it will never do as much damage as a mega, nor should it. Minmatar has never necessarily been about doing the most DPS. If you want the most raw DPS go Gallente, if you want good range control and speed go Minmatar.
Granted these are all kind of moot points at the battleship level. Even at the lower ships sizes though Minmatar hulls didn't really out DPS close range blaster boats. Its all about range control or at least it should be in my opinion.
Yep i appreciate that and agree with you in the comparison between a mega and a pest.
what i was more pointing at was that an 8/4/7 slot doesnt put the tempest anywhere near a position i'd want to fly it more (in fact i think i'd fly it less).
however, an 8/4/7 7xgun tempest, maybe with a combat ship role has more to offer and still does not overshadow a mega in those particular raw stats.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1845
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Posted - 2014.07.30 16:17:00 -
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Fredric Wolf wrote:
I agree with what you are saying and maybe something similar to what happened to the Hyperion as it is the attack BS for the Gallente why couldn't the Maelstrom be changed to that role with its active tank and allow the Tempest to fill the fleet role better?
The hyp is a combat BS. The mega is the attack BS.
Kagura Nikon wrote:
If you were comparing 2 battleships with all bonuses to damage then yes the observation would be valid.
But you are not!
You are comapring a battleship with 1 damage bonus and another bonus against another with 2 damage bonus. Yet the ones with 2 damage bonus do LESS damage than the one with 1 damage bonus on ALL ranges from zero to 20 km. At the point the tempest does more damage than the megatron the Apoc already outdamages both.
So the Tempest has no engagement envelope where it has advantage, therefore the observation between gallente and minmatar is invalid. Also if you want to defend the racial flavor, then make minmatar ships weight less than gallente. Something that was the flavor of minmatar but was simply stolen from them
so u think a tempest should do more dps?
and 8/4/7 pest with 8 guns might do that, but thats just silly.
i have no expectation for a tempest to out damage a mega in raw dps. i infact consider that dps is the mega's defining attribute.
tempest still has top speed and selectable damage types.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:11:00 -
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To mare wrote:
you forgot CAPLESS WEAPONS!
indeed
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
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